are you blind or stupid??
It’s not like I’m a huge fan of TTGL and I don’t say this series is the best ever, but this is stupid!

yeah, the story of TTGL is pretty simple and straightforward, the protagonist is always kick the bad guy ass and win, again, again all over again, but this is always happen in every anime story right?!?! it’s a common sense, whats wrong with that?!?
you don’t need logic, rationality, brain or the others thinking device to take this series seriously. you can’t compare this with code geass, gundam, or maybe death note. every anime has its own style to deliver it ‘message’. TTGL is about struggling for their own fate, will to survive, passion, optimistic, keep moving forward, and all of it is delivered perfectly in this series.

put aside logic, feel the passion, this anime is not supposedly to be ‘deep-thinking’ anime, this is about motivation to keep moving forward. this is the story of a man who struggle for his own fate.

if your score for Star Driver is 85/100, this series deserve 87.5/100 or more, TTGL story is more ‘clear’ than Star Driver, and about the stupidity and silliness, Star Driver is more stupid and silly than TTGL.

I have to comment on the music too. The music that plays (SPOILER ALERT) before Kamina dies is very well suited to the scene, and other great tracks make the battle scenes very enjoyable.

It was slightly predictable, but not all that predictable. Did anyone predict Kamina’s death? Did anyone predict Nia in the box? Did anyone predict the moon to be a Gunman? I betcha you were sitting there thinking “I got it! Yoko is gonna pose as a teacher! It’s so obvious!” Pfft.

Gurren Lagann is brilliant in its simplicity and its briefness. That’s all there is to it.

What I do think what made it worth watching was it’s brilliant execution. It sure did get like, really cliché that in any other show it might’ve been painful, but here it was pulled off brilliantly enough to keep you glued. The characters are not developed very far, but they are well rounded and interesting to watch, and stayed true to their characterization.

Overrated, yes muchly. But at least I can see where the hype is coming from. :)

#34 I like what you have to say about DN and TTGL, but what you said about them being two sides of the same coin doesn’t make sense. You explained how TTGL is simple-to-complex, but not how DN is complex-to-simple.

I love complex storylines, plot twists, character develpment, action scenes, and good animation as much as the next person. Especially if its a fast paced show or if its a tear jerker.

This show had none of these aspects aside from being fast paced (which didn’t really matter because it was INSANELY predictable) and tolerable animation.

Probably the best show I’ve seen so far is Code Geass (1+2), followed by Ghost in the Shell, Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, and Gungrave (in that order).

I’ve seen more movies than shows, so I’m no expert on the subject. And I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t obsessed with DBZ when I was 11 years old. So to get to my point, DBZ and TTGL are two sides of the same coin, which makes TTGL completely unoriginal. And like DBZ, it is the drivel of desperate anime creators and should only be shown to people who cannot tell the difference between pathetic absurdity and quality entertainment (i.e. 11-year old boys)

Grade: D-

TTGL is a simple to understand anime, yet the anime uses simple things to reach so many, again, DN proves to be the exact opposite, uses so many things to reach something so simple. Also TTGL is about breaking every limit that your humanity, law of physics, or even the universe has set to you, and critisize this anime for that is like critisizing DN for being far too complex, and trying to think every single word you say without messing up.

In conclusion, you can´t choose which of those two is the best anime, since they are seperate categories, but on their own category I can safely say that they are the best ones, but is up to taste of the viewer of either choosing complex-to-simple or simple-to-complex animes as their favorites

This show as mentioned is pretty fast paced and thats precisely what I didn’t like about it. I don’t have problems with fast paced shows, I’m quite a fan of Zetsubo sensei, but this show was just being a kaleidoscope of really bright flashing colors. The pace of things so to speak were there more for eye candy rather than trying to be inventive with the narrative, I think the colors used by the show along with how the battles looked would support this. Another beef I had with the show is that it went HOG WILD. I can see that the show is trying to be completely over the top but there is a difference between going over the top and going hog wild which this show just did, it went overboard with its elements whether it be sexual innuendos or the testosterone levels it was simply too much that it was obviously contrived. Case in point is the so called manliness of Kamina and well I can point to so much actions of him whether it be his incessant cockiness or his perversity as I said he was what the show was about in one character and that wasn’t a good thing. Again I’ll go to a comparison of Zetsubo Sensei which is a show that is too much, so much small details texts, jokes, criticisms, satire, etc. Yet, Zetsubo Sensei is a show that is too much but never feels like it was trying too hard to cram as much of everything it had but it never felt so contrived and just felt natural, hard to say why was but perhaps it was the frenetic cross-cutting style that though the show certainly was crammed never felt like it was forcing down all those details into as the editing was done fast enough to give you a glimpse of the detail. Enough of a glimpse to capture your interest and pay more attention to the surroundings, I often had to pause the show for a moment just because I wanted to see what the entire environment of the scene had in it. But with Gurren it just forces down all its absurdity into you.

Bunch of underground suckers that barely know eachother suddenly decide to become best friends, get some machines they instantly have names for and are able to combine, go on a journey with some half naked chick to defeat all. Kinda sounds like a 14 year old daydreaming at class?? Truly sorry but a story like that can kiss my ass.

And then I read somewhere that it’s supposed to be a lot better than Evangelion or Code Geass. I know tastes differ, but it makes my blood boil to hear that kind of bull.

Don’t you guys see? It’s this stupendous mash up of predictable and generic plot elements that also make this anime one of the most original animes I’ve ever seen.

While other anime writers try to come up with more emo characters in more unique and dramatically convoluted high school love triangles (Code gayass is a good example), the writers of Gurren Toppa No Lagan have the balls to run at light speed in the opposite direction. I’ve never thought such an extreme mash up of generic plot elements could form something so good.

brandon: Likewise.

Predictable? To a certain extent, but mostly I’m going to have to disagree. When I sat down and watched TTGL without any prior knowledge whatsoever, I didn’t expect Kamina to die like he did. I was totally shocked that they were so bold as to kill off the character that literally controlled the series up until that point. I was honestly depressed for the first time watching an anime. I’ve watched a lot of anime in my time and never before has a major character death hit me as hard as Kamina’s. I considered dropping the series at that point, but I continued and much to my great surprise, it worked without him. Not only that, it worked well — dare I say, better. Looking back, I don’t think it would have been as satisfying if he hadn’t died. Further, when Lordgenome was killed, did you sit there and go, “in a few episodes, I’m sure he’ll be cooperating with the Gurren Brigade! In fact, he’ll probably save them!”? Did you predict Viral piloting Gurren-Lagann alongside Simon after their rivalry throughout the first two-thirds of the series?

Really though, it’s not intended to be a twisting unpredictable story. The plot is GREAT. The whole fun of Gurren-Lagann is its flashiness and colorful animation and very memorable characters. I think you’re missing the point of the series.