Comments on: Ghost in the Shell Review - 74/100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/ An anime blog covering a large variety of series, both popular and underrated. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:11:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: BlueYoshi http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-8300 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:41:18 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-8300 Watched the movie last night. Having a brief knowledge about the world of GitS (by watching the first 6 episodes of Stand Alone Complex), I already had enough knowledge about the main characters. I think I might have to agree with IKnight on this one. Even though the story did leave me confused at times, the film was very provocative to me, and that was why I liked it so much. It does help that the Production Values were top-notch, as usual from IG. IG is the only other anime studio that has a chance of beating DEEN as my fav anime studio at the moment. Watched the movie last night. Having a brief knowledge about the world of GitS (by watching the first 6 episodes of Stand Alone Complex), I already had enough knowledge about the main characters. I think I might have to agree with IKnight on this one. Even though the story did leave me confused at times, the film was very provocative to me, and that was why I liked it so much. It does help that the Production Values were top-notch, as usual from IG. IG is the only other anime studio that has a chance of beating DEEN as my fav anime studio at the moment.

]]> by: fener http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-7322 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:00:53 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-7322 Also, please review the tv series if you can! It can always use more attention. Also, please review the tv series if you can! It can always use more attention.

]]> by: fener http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5663 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:34:45 +0000 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5663 The TV series is definitely much wore watchable (and re-watchable!) than the movies. The TV series is definitely much wore watchable (and re-watchable!) than the movies.

]]> by: asdf http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5659 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:30:39 +0000 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5659 i think it only feels hyped because it's dated, and so much stuff has come out inspired by GiTS. it was pushing the bounderies of greatness at the time right? so now that those bounderies are standard it seems faded and pointless. but from the moment i started watching the 1st episode of the tv series i knew i would love it way more than i liked the movie. the 2 seasons of the show have barely anything to do with each other plotwise so you can sit down and watch the first season without worrying about needing to watch the 2nd one immediately after i think it only feels hyped because it’s dated, and so much stuff has come out inspired by GiTS. it was pushing the bounderies of greatness at the time right? so now that those bounderies are standard it seems faded and pointless. but from the moment i started watching the 1st episode of the tv series i knew i would love it way more than i liked the movie. the 2 seasons of the show have barely anything to do with each other plotwise so you can sit down and watch the first season without worrying about needing to watch the 2nd one immediately after

]]> by: IKnight http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5647 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:28:13 +0000 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5647 I'm broadly with skolem. It's provocative, not explorative. TV shows (<em>Stand Alone Complex</em>) are explorative. Movies don't have the time. And the best place for real philosophy is in university philosophy departments. I know what you mean about hype, and I think I recall the scene with 'convenient philosophical dialogue'. I thought the sequel, <em>Innocence</em>, mostly consisted of that. And gratuitous, pointless quotation. Pretty animation, though . . . I’m broadly with skolem. It’s provocative, not explorative. TV shows (Stand Alone Complex) are explorative. Movies don’t have the time.

And the best place for real philosophy is in university philosophy departments.

I know what you mean about hype, and I think I recall the scene with ‘convenient philosophical dialogue’. I thought the sequel, Innocence, mostly consisted of that. And gratuitous, pointless quotation. Pretty animation, though . . .

]]> by: Skolem http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5646 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:50:17 +0000 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5646 I beg to differ, the film is really good, it's as good as a film could have been on this subject. I never understood why everything has to be explained in a movie, giving directions and hints is more than enough, it gives you a "feeling" for the setting and the characters and strengthen the "mystery" aspect of the movie. To me the plot is completely second and is just a mean to an other end. I would tend to separate strongly between the manga, the movies and the anime series. They are all playing in a different universe in my opinion. The movies are more a "philosophical" study of what a human beeing is, what reality is about and how far your senses are able to tell apart reality and "virtuality" (for the lack of a better term), it's universe is far more mysterious, sometimes on the boundaries to magic, in the end images, music and text are here to give you a "non-academic" treatment of these question, asking for a full resolution or for more background for the characters is pointless and outside the aim of the film. The series are more "down to earth" cyberpunk with an incredible plot, great characters (you will learn all about them in the series) great pace and more. But it just don't compare to the movies, they are both great but definitely aim for completely different things. And that is why, in my humble opinion, the movie was so acclaimed, it doesn't bother with plot, character development etc. It is a great work of (audio-visual) art with hints to very strong ideas about philosophical questions. The second film and his even more "artsy" approach is I think one more argument for this. I beg to differ, the film is really good, it’s as good as a film could have been on this subject. I never understood why everything has to be explained in a movie, giving directions and hints is more than enough, it gives you a “feeling” for the setting and the characters and strengthen the “mystery” aspect of the movie. To me the plot is completely second and is just a mean to an other end. I would tend to separate strongly between the manga, the movies and the anime series. They are all playing in a different universe in my opinion. The movies are more a “philosophical” study of what a human beeing is, what reality is about and how far your senses are able to tell apart reality and “virtuality” (for the lack of a better term), it’s universe is far more mysterious, sometimes on the boundaries to magic, in the end images, music and text are here to give you a “non-academic” treatment of these question, asking for a full resolution or for more background for the characters is pointless and outside the aim of the film. The series are more “down to earth” cyberpunk with an incredible plot, great characters (you will learn all about them in the series) great pace and more. But it just don’t compare to the movies, they are both great but definitely aim for completely different things.
And that is why, in my humble opinion, the movie was so acclaimed, it doesn’t bother with plot, character development etc. It is a great work of (audio-visual) art with hints to very strong ideas about philosophical questions. The second film and his even more “artsy” approach is I think one more argument for this.

]]> by: Archer http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5644 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:54:26 +0000 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5644 i definitely agree that this movie is a bit overrated but this is the movie that influenced a lot of other movies and anime,the other two tv series are on a different level i think,but still i saw Patlabor i can say that maybe it's better only when compared to the two movies because it is hard to compare any other anime with the 1st gig and 2nd gig(and that is not overrated at all)Oshii was too ambitious in this movie,he tried to use too many ideas in just one movie but even so the other two seasons using the characters and some of Oshii's ideas managed to have more depth but still be accessible to understand if u pay enough attention because gits is not a anime that is meant for people to watch without thinking,the plots are probably one of the most complex but still realistic you will ever see in an anime,the characters get a lot of development(and not only the main ones)especially in the second season,the villains(if i can say so because u don't see here the usual villain) are very captivating and unique,the sound is great even in the movies so no need to say anything about it,the graphics are amazing especially if u can get the best quality episodes(and it is not hard at all) and just like seirei there are episodes where the characters only talk but all that has meaning behind it and there is not that much action but when there is it will be breathtaking so i just hope that you will watch this anime psg because i think you won't be disappointed because i saw u like stories with depth,even if i saw u did not enjoy that much the episodes from seirei where there was all talk(maybe because u saw them raw) and also love mystery so i cannot see why you should not watch one of the most original,amazing anime series ever made maybe another anime blogger must convince you *points at Washi :D* i definitely agree that this movie is a bit overrated but this is the movie that influenced a lot of other movies and anime,the other two tv series are on a different level i think,but still i saw Patlabor i can say that maybe it’s better only when compared to the two movies because it is hard to compare any other anime with the 1st gig and 2nd gig(and that is not overrated at all)Oshii was too ambitious in this movie,he tried to use too many ideas in just one movie but even so the other two seasons using the characters and some of Oshii’s ideas managed to have more depth but still be accessible to understand if u pay enough attention because gits is not a anime that is meant for people to watch without thinking,the plots are probably one of the most complex but still realistic you will ever see in an anime,the characters get a lot of development(and not only the main ones)especially in the second season,the villains(if i can say so because u don’t see here the usual villain) are very captivating and unique,the sound is great even in the movies so no need to say anything about it,the graphics are amazing especially if u can get the best quality episodes(and it is not hard at all) and just like seirei there are episodes where the characters only talk but all that has meaning behind it and there is not that much action but when there is it will be breathtaking so i just hope that you will watch this anime psg because i think you won’t be disappointed because i saw u like stories with depth,even if i saw u did not enjoy that much the episodes from seirei where there was all talk(maybe because u saw them raw) and also love mystery so i cannot see why you should not watch one of the most original,amazing anime series ever made
maybe another anime blogger must convince you *points at Washi :D*

]]> by: psgels http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5643 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:18:22 +0000 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5643 Well, luckily the Ghost in the Shell-franchise isn't as big as, say, Gundam or Macross, so I'll probably get around to watching the two series some day. Well, luckily the Ghost in the Shell-franchise isn’t as big as, say, Gundam or Macross, so I’ll probably get around to watching the two series some day.

]]> by: Patrick Monti http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5641 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:14:19 +0000 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/01/03/ghost-in-the-shell-review-74100/#comment-5641 Well at the time I had recently read the manga and I hated the movie on seeing it. Now knowing all the story and being a shirow fanboy I think it's an OK movie, but I prefer by far the Stand Alone Complex series that the two "old" movies. If you feel you are not up to seeing 52 episodes of the Ghost in the Shell S.A.C. series there are 3 movies based on the series. Two explain the main story of each season and the other is some kind of epilogue at the end. I would recomend you both films, they are not as good as the series though. Well at the time I had recently read the manga and I hated the movie on seeing it. Now knowing all the story and being a shirow fanboy I think it’s an OK movie, but I prefer by far the Stand Alone Complex series that the two “old” movies. If you feel you are not up to seeing 52 episodes of the Ghost in the Shell S.A.C. series there are 3 movies based on the series. Two explain the main story of each season and the other is some kind of epilogue at the end.
I would recomend you both films, they are not as good as the series though.

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