Comments on: Some thoughts on the “Anime is Dying” doom scenarios http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/ An anime blog covering a large variety of series, both popular and underrated. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:41:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: ebisu http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13303 Tue, 12 May 2009 23:49:32 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13303 He, nowadays I hear a lot something like I'd do that or buy that but there's just not money for it. All economic sectors are being hit by the lack of sales. And I think people won't buy immediately the dvd's they want. Instead they'll wait to have enough saved or wait for offers. Patience. He, nowadays I hear a lot something like I’d do that or buy that but there’s just not money for it. All economic sectors are being hit by the lack of sales. And I think people won’t buy immediately the dvd’s they want. Instead they’ll wait to have enough saved or wait for offers. Patience.

]]> by: Shippoyasha http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13261 Sun, 10 May 2009 12:45:28 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13261 I think we all know how horrendously expensive the Blurays/DVDs of anime are in Japan already. Add that with the recession and viola. Also, I don't really believe in the silly 'culling of crappy shows or practics' BS. Get that silly proselytizing crap out of it. I think we all know how horrendously expensive the Blurays/DVDs of anime are in Japan already. Add that with the recession and viola.

Also, I don’t really believe in the silly ‘culling of crappy shows or practics’ BS. Get that silly proselytizing crap out of it.

]]> by: Machi http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13248 Sun, 10 May 2009 01:37:40 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13248 With regards to fansubs and anime sales that would be an interesting economic study to find out their relation. Companies are just blowing off steam and blaming fansubs since undoubtedly it does make them "lose" sales, though the question is whether they would've had those sales in the first place and whether it does help in marketing. In any case a study does need to be made just that nobody has undertaken it yet, gathering data for that will definitely be a bitch XD. With regards to fansubs and anime sales that would be an interesting economic study to find out their relation. Companies are just blowing off steam and blaming fansubs since undoubtedly it does make them “lose” sales, though the question is whether they would’ve had those sales in the first place and whether it does help in marketing. In any case a study does need to be made just that nobody has undertaken it yet, gathering data for that will definitely be a bitch XD.

]]> by: Khan http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13245 Sun, 10 May 2009 01:02:06 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13245 One happy side effect I hope this recession will have, is the death of 4Kids and all other companies that produce the horrible dubs on American TV. I wish they would stop licensing anime already. They make the worst English subs/dubs, much worse than fansubs, and they expect people to buy the crap they're producing. One happy side effect I hope this recession will have, is the death of 4Kids and all other companies that produce the horrible dubs on American TV. I wish they would stop licensing anime already. They make the worst English subs/dubs, much worse than fansubs, and they expect people to buy the crap they’re producing.

]]> by: hashi http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13221 Fri, 08 May 2009 21:02:20 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13221 My take is the same as yours. Far more anime are being produced now than in 2005, and only a tick down from the 2006 high. And sales are good, in the big picture. Fansubbing both grows and shrinks sales. If it hadn't been for fansubs, I would never have gotten into anime enough to buy them. But the anime industry could be like the US auto industry: producing more and more gas-guzzling ecchi shows and mecha shows that sell to the same public over and over again, and not developing really good new product that expands the market. Understandable but dangerous. My take is the same as yours. Far more anime are being produced now than in 2005, and only a tick down from the 2006 high. And sales are good, in the big picture. Fansubbing both grows and shrinks sales. If it hadn’t been for fansubs, I would never have gotten into anime enough to buy them.

But the anime industry could be like the US auto industry: producing more and more gas-guzzling ecchi shows and mecha shows that sell to the same public over and over again, and not developing really good new product that expands the market. Understandable but dangerous.

]]> by: Howling-kun http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13219 Fri, 08 May 2009 20:44:19 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13219 I think you should take into account you enjoy a very particular kind of anime, psgels. I for one enjoy all kinds of shows, and always have stuff to watch. Anime is still far away from dying. However, it's obvious it is taking new directions. It is to be expected that shows in the same vein as those that sell a lot spawn more. Moe shows and Sunrise trainwrecks for example, while being mindless fun, are still very entertaining (and guess what: most of them are improving!), and we still get a lot of shows with "depth". Either way, I'm satisfied with recent seasons' anime line-up. Pretty mixed. The real shame is: shows that don't sell [usually] don't get new seasons. I'm stunned Birdy even got a S2 with the first being such a commercial failure. My only fear is that shows like KYASSHAN, which are truly excellent and that don't need/can't have a second season, don't spawn more often. Anyway, Natsume looks like an exception to the general rule and I still haven't watched it. I think you should take into account you enjoy a very particular kind of anime, psgels.
I for one enjoy all kinds of shows, and always have stuff to watch.
Anime is still far away from dying. However, it’s obvious it is taking new directions.
It is to be expected that shows in the same vein as those that sell a lot spawn more.
Moe shows and Sunrise trainwrecks for example, while being mindless fun, are still very entertaining (and guess what: most of them are improving!), and we still get a lot of shows with “depth”.
Either way, I’m satisfied with recent seasons’ anime line-up. Pretty mixed.
The real shame is: shows that don’t sell [usually] don’t get new seasons.
I’m stunned Birdy even got a S2 with the first being such a commercial failure.
My only fear is that shows like KYASSHAN, which are truly excellent and that don’t need/can’t have a second season, don’t spawn more often.

Anyway, Natsume looks like an exception to the general rule and I still haven’t watched it.

]]> by: tekky99 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13217 Fri, 08 May 2009 20:02:17 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13217 THANK YOU I've been wanting to say something like this about the "anime crisis". My biggest complaint (this also applies to politics, economy, etc) is that people keep forgetting to look at "the big picture" and keep asking for instant gratification. As long as this happens, we'll always have this cycle of highs and lows. (Of course I'm no different -__-;;) THANK YOU
I’ve been wanting to say something like this about the “anime crisis”. My biggest complaint (this also applies to politics, economy, etc) is that people keep forgetting to look at “the big picture” and keep asking for instant gratification. As long as this happens, we’ll always have this cycle of highs and lows.
(Of course I’m no different -__-;;)

]]> by: Sapphire Pyro http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13210 Fri, 08 May 2009 18:18:52 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13210 What the . . . Even if I don't read those reports, surveys, rankings, whatsoever . . . I think it's common sense that anime ain't dying considering that there are more coming soon and anime fans are still worldwide, not just in Japan. Why should they worry when cartoons of third-world countries can't even be that appreciated by its own people . . . much more on other countries. *sigh* but anywayz, hopefully this kind of issue won't discourage anime companies (and I don't think t actually is). What the . . .
Even if I don’t read those reports, surveys, rankings, whatsoever . . .
I think it’s common sense that anime ain’t dying considering that there are more coming soon and anime fans are still worldwide, not just in Japan. Why should they worry when cartoons of third-world countries can’t even be that appreciated by its own people . . . much more on other countries. *sigh*
but anywayz, hopefully this kind of issue won’t discourage anime companies (and I don’t think t actually is).

]]> by: Machi http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13203 Fri, 08 May 2009 14:32:36 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13203 Well pretty much what did they expect its not like the anime companies have a captive market, much like the oil companies, so its not as if they could continue to increase sales. Moreover, its a luxury good so it may just so happen the increase of prices of goods due to inflation have decreased sales. But in the end honestly any no economist worth their grain of salt would give a stark statement of "Anime is Dying" based on a graph or just sales figure. Things like that doesn't show things like consumer behavior and other market factors, basically it depends on a lot of other factors that do need to be considered like for instance pay-streaming or pay-downloads of anime's may have competed with DVD sales as a substitute or the introduction of Blu-Ray technology may have affected consumer behavior (such as myself when I buy DVD's nowadays). Well pretty much what did they expect its not like the anime companies have a captive market, much like the oil companies, so its not as if they could continue to increase sales. Moreover, its a luxury good so it may just so happen the increase of prices of goods due to inflation have decreased sales. But in the end honestly any no economist worth their grain of salt would give a stark statement of “Anime is Dying” based on a graph or just sales figure. Things like that doesn’t show things like consumer behavior and other market factors, basically it depends on a lot of other factors that do need to be considered like for instance pay-streaming or pay-downloads of anime’s may have competed with DVD sales as a substitute or the introduction of Blu-Ray technology may have affected consumer behavior (such as myself when I buy DVD’s nowadays).

]]> by: Kim http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13202 Fri, 08 May 2009 14:15:39 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13202 I agree I am not sure why people are surprised that DVD sales are down in this economy. It's a luxury item so clearly sales are going to hurt. As for the bubble bursting well with the amount of anime that is produced each year that is no surprise either. There is just so much that no one can watch everything and you definitely can't buy everything. Who knows something good might come out of this maybe we will start getting more quality over quantity. I agree I am not sure why people are surprised that DVD sales are down in this economy. It’s a luxury item so clearly sales are going to hurt.

As for the bubble bursting well with the amount of anime that is produced each year that is no surprise either. There is just so much that no one can watch everything and you definitely can’t buy everything.

Who knows something good might come out of this maybe we will start getting more quality over quantity.

]]> by: aegd http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13200 Fri, 08 May 2009 14:00:09 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13200 You also have to count in merchandise sales, since this also boost income. It would be interesting to if there has been an increase or decrease in merchandise sales over the past couple of years. You also have to count in merchandise sales, since this also boost income. It would be interesting to if there has been an increase or decrease in merchandise sales over the past couple of years.

]]> by: AKI http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13199 Fri, 08 May 2009 13:49:04 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13199 Seems like natsume yuujinchou's sales are good. Are we gonna expect a season 3? hehehe. Seems like natsume yuujinchou’s sales are good. Are we gonna expect a season 3? hehehe.

]]> by: senerikfred http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13198 Fri, 08 May 2009 12:28:55 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/05/08/some-thoughts-on-the-anime-is-dying-doom-scenarios/#comment-13198 I saw an article on ANN about that guy that forum topic was talking about. Instead of going FANSUBS KILL, HUNT DOWN THE FANS like a lot of people tend to, the guy they're quoting mostly said to respond with 'quality over quantity,' fewer, better shows, and especially less of the lame kind that people are getting the impression are only made because the industry thinks anything with bishoujo or mech elements will sell. He also said some other useful stuff I can't recall, I think some stuff about increasing legal, worldwide access, and was generally awesome. So with this guy around, I'm confident we'll be fine. I saw an article on ANN about that guy that forum topic was talking about. Instead of going FANSUBS KILL, HUNT DOWN THE FANS like a lot of people tend to, the guy they’re quoting mostly said to respond with ‘quality over quantity,’ fewer, better shows, and especially less of the lame kind that people are getting the impression are only made because the industry thinks anything with bishoujo or mech elements will sell. He also said some other useful stuff I can’t recall, I think some stuff about increasing legal, worldwide access, and was generally awesome. So with this guy around, I’m confident we’ll be fine.

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