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	<title>Comments on: Shangri-La - 13</title>
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		<title>by: Rob Hiengler</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-22621</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:20:59 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>The recap at the beginning of this episode renders the previous 12 essentially obsolete.

All that was missing is some reference to Digma's.

I still fail to see how the surface is inhospitable? Considering the people in Akhibara and Doumdoum don't seem to be starving and the place isn't exactly run down. Let's not mention the secret US base maintained by one guy with an access road that's not overgrown.  In addition aside from Ryoko what kind of oppression of the masses have we seen? The first 12 episodes would have been better spent establishing the world of Shangri-la and motives rather than a vapid &quot;character development&quot; or some fallacious pseudo-intellectualizing about Carbon credits which seemingly has little to do with the current plot; except to &quot;make money&quot;.  Make money to do what exactly? Seems its a meaningless ploy to buy otaku trinkets: perhaps a dig at today's shallow consumerism (I doubt it) considering Karin hasn't revealed why she needs to make money at all.

Seems like the surface dwellers do a lot of bitching.

Ok to what is meant to be the saving grace, the dogfight of this episode - It visually was Good - MACROSS ZERO beats it with the yard stick until it's a sopping wet bloody mess but whatever.  F-35 Joint Strike Fighters? unable to hit a slow moving target just using machine guns!? Just to remind people these planes have VTOL capability (and stealth) as they are the Harrier replacement; therefore can easily match speed of the Stealth bomber. Let's not even get to destroying 2 A-A missiles travelling at Mach 3 using a boomerang

As Ryoko said:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;That was hilarious&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Next unmanned super-spinning tops.  If you had those to begin with why use the airforce to begin with? Just to show how evil Ryoko is? Hardly evil just pointless. Next hilarious thing was Konoe-san, I mean how shite are weapon systems of he future if you can't hit a non-moving target (relatively speaking) at point blank range.

Next apparently one finds out Atlas true purpose. Can't say I'm holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The recap at the beginning of this episode renders the previous 12 essentially obsolete.</p>
	<p>All that was missing is some reference to Digma&#8217;s.</p>
	<p>I still fail to see how the surface is inhospitable? Considering the people in Akhibara and Doumdoum don&#8217;t seem to be starving and the place isn&#8217;t exactly run down. Let&#8217;s not mention the secret US base maintained by one guy with an access road that&#8217;s not overgrown.  In addition aside from Ryoko what kind of oppression of the masses have we seen? The first 12 episodes would have been better spent establishing the world of Shangri-la and motives rather than a vapid &#8220;character development&#8221; or some fallacious pseudo-intellectualizing about Carbon credits which seemingly has little to do with the current plot; except to &#8220;make money&#8221;.  Make money to do what exactly? Seems its a meaningless ploy to buy otaku trinkets: perhaps a dig at today&#8217;s shallow consumerism (I doubt it) considering Karin hasn&#8217;t revealed why she needs to make money at all.</p>
	<p>Seems like the surface dwellers do a lot of bitching.</p>
	<p>Ok to what is meant to be the saving grace, the dogfight of this episode - It visually was Good - MACROSS ZERO beats it with the yard stick until it&#8217;s a sopping wet bloody mess but whatever.  F-35 Joint Strike Fighters? unable to hit a slow moving target just using machine guns!? Just to remind people these planes have VTOL capability (and stealth) as they are the Harrier replacement; therefore can easily match speed of the Stealth bomber. Let&#8217;s not even get to destroying 2 A-A missiles travelling at Mach 3 using a boomerang</p>
	<p>As Ryoko said:</p>
	<p><i>&#8220;That was hilarious&#8221;</i></p>
	<p>Next unmanned super-spinning tops.  If you had those to begin with why use the airforce to begin with? Just to show how evil Ryoko is? Hardly evil just pointless. Next hilarious thing was Konoe-san, I mean how shite are weapon systems of he future if you can&#8217;t hit a non-moving target (relatively speaking) at point blank range.</p>
	<p>Next apparently one finds out Atlas true purpose. Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m holding my breath.
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		<title>by: Lightning</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14354</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:05:05 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14354</guid>
					<description>&quot;With such an ambitious setting, if this series manages to avoid any major screw-ups, it’s going to be epic.&quot;

As I was expecting, I've loved the ambitious nature of this series since the very beginning :)

My god I loved episode 13.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;With such an ambitious setting, if this series manages to avoid any major screw-ups, it’s going to be epic.&#8221;</p>
	<p>As I was expecting, I&#8217;ve loved the ambitious nature of this series since the very beginning :)</p>
	<p>My god I loved episode 13.
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		<title>by: Shounen A</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14216</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:16:01 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>@Senna: As for the animation quality, a few episodes after the first one may have had terrible quality, but thankfully the animation quality recovers to a reasonable level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@Senna: As for the animation quality, a few episodes after the first one may have had terrible quality, but thankfully the animation quality recovers to a reasonable level.
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		<title>by: Shockinblue</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14213</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:29:29 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Momoko really looks feminine in the new ED background. Haha. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Momoko really looks feminine in the new ED background. Haha.
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		<title>by: Acorns</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14193</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:37:41 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Senna:

No, it doesn't change.. this series is pretty consistent. If you liked the first few eps (their pacing, the animation style, the action, etc), you will like all of them. If you were annoyed at the chars, lack of reasonable plot, depth etc then you will not like all of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Senna:</p>
	<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t change.. this series is pretty consistent. If you liked the first few eps (their pacing, the animation style, the action, etc), you will like all of them. If you were annoyed at the chars, lack of reasonable plot, depth etc then you will not like all of them.
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		<title>by: Senna</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14181</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:35:33 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>All this enthusiasm for Shangri-la makes me almost want to pick it back up, except I thought the first few episodes were terrible and I disliked the majority of the characters.  But maybe I'll give it a second chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>All this enthusiasm for Shangri-la makes me almost want to pick it back up, except I thought the first few episodes were terrible and I disliked the majority of the characters.  But maybe I&#8217;ll give it a second chance?
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		<title>by: Sapphire Pyro</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14148</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:38:30 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>seen it now

I don't consider GONZO as the master of CG, but visuals were indeed very amazing in this episode! I love the CG action scenes in this episode *_*

forgot to mention that this got me really amused:
&lt;i&gt;but so far the only thing he’s done is screw up when Kuniko was around. &lt;/i&gt;
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA xD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>seen it now</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t consider GONZO as the master of CG, but visuals were indeed very amazing in this episode! I love the CG action scenes in this episode *_*</p>
	<p>forgot to mention that this got me really amused:<br />
<i>but so far the only thing he’s done is screw up when Kuniko was around. </i><br />
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA xD
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		<title>by: psgels</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14146</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:39:16 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14146</guid>
					<description>Westlo: I don't mean this in terms of detail. Sure enough, nothing beats the huge budget of Macross Frontier and most other Satelight productions. The effect I'm talking about is hard to describe, but the CGI makes the entire picture come alive. I think this is the most noticeable with Blassreiter: sure, the CG looked pretty ugly and all, but the combination of fast-moving camera angles and character movement was something that even Macross Frontier was inferior at. 

I'm obviously no animation expert like you, so I know that I'm rambling a bunch of nonsense here and I realize that this is highly personal, but Gonzo's CGI for some reason has a certain something (call it an X-Factor) that I have yet to notice with Satelight, or at least, the Satelight productions that I watched, since I can't speak for Aquarion or Macross Zero. If it turns out that Blassreiter's action scenes were blatantly ripped off from Aquarion and Macross Zero also had a boomerang-shaped air-carrier that assaulted a huge fortress while moving slow and realistically, then I of course take these words back. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Westlo: I don&#8217;t mean this in terms of detail. Sure enough, nothing beats the huge budget of Macross Frontier and most other Satelight productions. The effect I&#8217;m talking about is hard to describe, but the CGI makes the entire picture come alive. I think this is the most noticeable with Blassreiter: sure, the CG looked pretty ugly and all, but the combination of fast-moving camera angles and character movement was something that even Macross Frontier was inferior at. </p>
	<p>I&#8217;m obviously no animation expert like you, so I know that I&#8217;m rambling a bunch of nonsense here and I realize that this is highly personal, but Gonzo&#8217;s CGI for some reason has a certain something (call it an X-Factor) that I have yet to notice with Satelight, or at least, the Satelight productions that I watched, since I can&#8217;t speak for Aquarion or Macross Zero. If it turns out that Blassreiter&#8217;s action scenes were blatantly ripped off from Aquarion and Macross Zero also had a boomerang-shaped air-carrier that assaulted a huge fortress while moving slow and realistically, then I of course take these words back.
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		<title>by: Westlo</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14145</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:26:51 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>How is Gonzo's CG better than Satelight? To even put shit like Dragonaut and Linebarrels in the same league as Aquarion is a joke.. and I'm not even going to mention the heavy hitters in Macross Zero, Frontier and Basquash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>How is Gonzo&#8217;s CG better than Satelight? To even put shit like Dragonaut and Linebarrels in the same league as Aquarion is a joke.. and I&#8217;m not even going to mention the heavy hitters in Macross Zero, Frontier and Basquash.
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		<title>by: Shounen A</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14143</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:07:10 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;a&gt;@psgels&lt;/a&gt;: I don’t think he is Karin’s father: Karin is usually annoyed at Tarsion, whereas she was quite happy when she got voice mail from her father.

Sorry about the internal server error.  It seems that my shared host has been going into crazy overload mode more often recently. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a>@psgels</a>: I don’t think he is Karin’s father: Karin is usually annoyed at Tarsion, whereas she was quite happy when she got voice mail from her father.</p>
	<p>Sorry about the internal server error.  It seems that my shared host has been going into crazy overload mode more often recently. :(
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		<title>by: Elky</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14142</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:19 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Agreed, Gonzo's CGs are awesome. You should totally see Last Exile(Which is also from Gonzo), it has one of the most epic CGI ever! *3*
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Agreed, Gonzo&#8217;s CGs are awesome. You should totally see Last Exile(Which is also from Gonzo), it has one of the most epic CGI ever! *3*
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		<title>by: Marlon</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14140</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:30:16 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14140</guid>
					<description>I may follow anime series that often, but Shangri La is honestly amazing. I'm glad I never took a look a the public opinion on this series before starting to watch it, because this one does indeed rule, it's odd at times, but I rarely see shows I accually look forward to,and here, after every episode I wanna see the next one already. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I may follow anime series that often, but Shangri La is honestly amazing. I&#8217;m glad I never took a look a the public opinion on this series before starting to watch it, because this one does indeed rule, it&#8217;s odd at times, but I rarely see shows I accually look forward to,and here, after every episode I wanna see the next one already.
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		<title>by: psgels</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14137</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:39:42 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14137</guid>
					<description>Shounen A: At first, I didn't catch the name of the upper chief. But damn... to think that he was Karin's father... O.o

By the way, I'm getting an internal server error when I try to post on your blog. Does this happen more often?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Shounen A: At first, I didn&#8217;t catch the name of the upper chief. But damn&#8230; to think that he was Karin&#8217;s father&#8230; O.o</p>
	<p>By the way, I&#8217;m getting an internal server error when I try to post on your blog. Does this happen more often?
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		<title>by: Shounen A</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14134</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:17:05 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Did you catch the name of the &quot;upper chief&quot;? O_O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Did you catch the name of the &#8220;upper chief&#8221;? O_O
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		<title>by: Sapphire Pyro</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14133</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:41:25 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I CAN ALSO FEEL THAT KUNIHITO HAS A BIG ROLE IN THE SECOND HALF SO DAMNIT GONZO MAKE HIM DO SOMETHING REALLY BIG NEXT EPISODE ALREADY!!!!!! O_O

Anywayz, I haven't seen the episode . . . yet. But seeing those spoilers and screenshots already confirm to me that this episode is awesome! *_*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I CAN ALSO FEEL THAT KUNIHITO HAS A BIG ROLE IN THE SECOND HALF SO DAMNIT GONZO MAKE HIM DO SOMETHING REALLY BIG NEXT EPISODE ALREADY!!!!!! O_O</p>
	<p>Anywayz, I haven&#8217;t seen the episode . . . yet. But seeing those spoilers and screenshots already confirm to me that this episode is awesome! *_*
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		<title>by: zaeris</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14132</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:42:28 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>@Denizen
Gonzo has shown in the past what CGI is all about with Yukikaze and Gankutsuou. Its more an issue with budgeting as evidently as it seems they just don't have the money to pull off amazedly stunning CGI.

As for the episode I would have to say it was impressive.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@Denizen<br />
Gonzo has shown in the past what CGI is all about with Yukikaze and Gankutsuou. Its more an issue with budgeting as evidently as it seems they just don&#8217;t have the money to pull off amazedly stunning CGI.</p>
	<p>As for the episode I would have to say it was impressive.
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		<title>by: Iro</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14131</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:26:20 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Sadly, Gonzo got busted, for real this time</description>
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		<title>by: Denizen</title>
		<link>http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/06/29/shangri-la-13/#comment-14127</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:44:55 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>If its Satelight level CGI, I can handle it, but has Gonzo got to that level yet?</description>
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