Comments on: July Summary http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/ An anime blog covering a large variety of series, both popular and underrated. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:09:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: ryvrdrgn14 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15217 Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:55:54 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15217 Yes, I am raging! >:E Yes, I am raging! >:E

]]> by: psgels http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15173 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:53:38 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15173 Lolfang: really? Haven't I always been? Or did you mean that I stopped blogging series I don't like or something? Lolfang: really? Haven’t I always been? Or did you mean that I stopped blogging series I don’t like or something?

]]> by: LolFang http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15172 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:40:02 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15172 Bah. Psgel, your taste allways was strange, but you really turning into fanboy in past few seasons. Also Bakemonogatari have brilliant dialogs. Bah. Psgel, your taste allways was strange, but you really turning into fanboy in past few seasons. Also Bakemonogatari have brilliant dialogs.

]]> by: DLP http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15164 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:32:44 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15164 The ones I'm enjoying: [1] Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 [2] Phantom - very engaging [3] Spice / Wolf - generally cool [4] Bakemonogatari - good dialogue is worth it [5] Umi Monogartari (Sea Story) - well done [6] Canaan - great production, not fully engaged with characters or plot Haruhi dropped for now, but I *did* really like the one new episode before the endless eight nonsense, and if they get to a conclusion, will return. The ones I’m enjoying:
[1] Tokyo Magnitude 8.0
[2] Phantom - very engaging
[3] Spice / Wolf - generally cool
[4] Bakemonogatari - good dialogue is worth it
[5] Umi Monogartari (Sea Story) - well done
[6] Canaan - great production, not fully engaged with characters or plot

Haruhi dropped for now, but I *did* really like the one new episode before the endless eight nonsense, and if they get to a conclusion, will return.

]]> by: Ebod http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15163 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 07:45:25 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15163 I can't believe that you rated shows lower than the Haruhi Endless Eight episodes. I'm not ragging on your for your ratings or anything; I just find that amusing. xD I can’t believe that you rated shows lower than the Haruhi Endless Eight episodes. I’m not ragging on your for your ratings or anything; I just find that amusing. xD

]]> by: renz http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15149 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:56:35 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15149 ...i really like bakemonogatari's style, the text flowing down the screen sticks true to its novel roots instead of pretending to be manga based anime like how To Aru Majustu no Index was. In index they would go through long winded explanations which contributed little, in bakemonogatari they get rid of that mostly unnecessary drivel by overloading the screen with text which isnt necessarily important but still relevant. The result is something different and fresh which I appreciate. …i really like bakemonogatari’s style, the text flowing down the screen sticks true to its novel roots instead of pretending to be manga based anime like how To Aru Majustu no Index was. In index they would go through long winded explanations which contributed little, in bakemonogatari they get rid of that mostly unnecessary drivel by overloading the screen with text which isnt necessarily important but still relevant. The result is something different and fresh which I appreciate.

]]> by: c160 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15148 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:35:54 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15148 My fav show so far is still of yet Shangri La.I love series that can keep up the mystery even after the halfway point,but I do hope that the mysteries will be unraveled in a "smart" way and not the typical whole episode(s)straight-forward explanation straight from the mouth of the characters. Its nice to see this place become a sort of become a Shangri La fans hub when almost everybody else is hating the series ^^ My fav show so far is still of yet Shangri La.I love series that can keep up the mystery even after the halfway point,but I do hope that the mysteries will be unraveled in a “smart” way and not the typical whole episode(s)straight-forward explanation straight from the mouth of the characters.

Its nice to see this place become a sort of become a Shangri La fans hub when almost everybody else is hating the series ^^

]]> by: psgels http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15146 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:33:44 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15146 Camario: I think that the thing that makes Code Geass relevant here is that like Shangri La it's a flawed series that somehow ends up being really good in the eyes of some people, especially considering how I personally loved Shangri-la while I got rather bored by Code Geass Zack: ah, in that way. The thing is, that I indeed wasn't expecting deep characters from Code Geass at all. But the thing is that instead of having simple character-development, the character-development didn't make any sense whatsoever for me. Perrin: it might be an interesting idea to indeed drop Canaan for a different show; you're right that there's only so much you can say about it. I'm not sure whether I'm going to replace it with Spice and Wolf though. GA also seems very interesting with its focus on art design and a bit of extra attention wouldn't hurt it either. Camario: I think that the thing that makes Code Geass relevant here is that like Shangri La it’s a flawed series that somehow ends up being really good in the eyes of some people, especially considering how I personally loved Shangri-la while I got rather bored by Code Geass

Zack: ah, in that way. The thing is, that I indeed wasn’t expecting deep characters from Code Geass at all. But the thing is that instead of having simple character-development, the character-development didn’t make any sense whatsoever for me.

Perrin: it might be an interesting idea to indeed drop Canaan for a different show; you’re right that there’s only so much you can say about it. I’m not sure whether I’m going to replace it with Spice and Wolf though. GA also seems very interesting with its focus on art design and a bit of extra attention wouldn’t hurt it either.

]]> by: Camario http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15138 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:27:58 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15138 Right now I'm probably enjoying Phantom and Umineko the most, followed by Shin Mazinger and Guin Saga. The only problem is...I'm several episodes out of date, particularly in the last two cases. XD I really do want to watch some of the newer shows too, including Spice and Wolf II, but that will have to wait a little. Leaving everything else aside...am I the only person who finds it increasingly excessive to keep discussing Code Geass at this point? Granted...I've written about it before myself, true, but the fact that the same subject keeps resurfacing every so often gets rather tiresome. The show was entertaining yet flawed, but it still managed to provide closure to the original premise and some of the characters. That's pretty much my opinion, for the record. Thus, while I don't even fully agree with psgels or Howling-kun, it's not like Scamps or ZACK are going to change that either. What's the point? Shangri-La might be better or worse, I can't really know without watching the actual show myself, but the comparison doesn't appear to be of much use. Right now I’m probably enjoying Phantom and Umineko the most, followed by Shin Mazinger and Guin Saga.

The only problem is…I’m several episodes out of date, particularly in the last two cases. XD

I really do want to watch some of the newer shows too, including Spice and Wolf II, but that will have to wait a little.

Leaving everything else aside…am I the only person who finds it increasingly excessive to keep discussing Code Geass at this point?

Granted…I’ve written about it before myself, true, but the fact that the same subject keeps resurfacing every so often gets rather tiresome.

The show was entertaining yet flawed, but it still managed to provide closure to the original premise and some of the characters. That’s pretty much my opinion, for the record. Thus, while I don’t even fully agree with psgels or Howling-kun, it’s not like Scamps or ZACK are going to change that either. What’s the point?

Shangri-La might be better or worse, I can’t really know without watching the actual show myself, but the comparison doesn’t appear to be of much use.

]]> by: Howling-kun http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15137 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:52:58 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15137 I don't mean to butt in the Code Geass discussion, but even for entertainment value, Code Geass was a absolutely retarded trainwreck because it had a serious premise. It was so stupid it made me facepalm every now and then. TTGL and Hellsing Ultimate are shows that I really consider to be entertainment value: they don't take themselves seriously at all and have a good to excellent presentation (what Geass also didn't, I hated those deformed faces on the background). I don’t mean to butt in the Code Geass discussion, but even for entertainment value, Code Geass was a absolutely retarded trainwreck because it had a serious premise. It was so stupid it made me facepalm every now and then. TTGL and Hellsing Ultimate are shows that I really consider to be entertainment value: they don’t take themselves seriously at all and have a good to excellent presentation (what Geass also didn’t, I hated those deformed faces on the background).

]]> by: Howling-kun http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15136 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:43:51 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15136 The show I look forward the most every week is still Saki, believe it or not. I can't put on words how awesome I think lesbians lolis with burning fists playing mahjong is. HHHNNNGGGGG The show I look forward the most every week is still Saki, believe it or not. I can’t put on words how awesome I think lesbians lolis with burning fists playing mahjong is. HHHNNNGGGGG

]]> by: Perrin4869 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15134 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:21:47 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15134 Maybe you should pick up Spice and Wolf II and drop one of the least interesting series? It certainly has better blogging material than, say, Canaan, judging by your entries Maybe you should pick up Spice and Wolf II and drop one of the least interesting series? It certainly has better blogging material than, say, Canaan, judging by your entries

]]> by: ZACK http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15132 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:57:49 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15132 psgels:I never said it was not meant to be criticized but was merely refering to the way you evaluate it.I understand that code geass has it's flaws and yeah some times hell..most of the times goes over the top but that is I believe excatly what the creators intended. The question then is do you enjoy these kind of shows or to put it more accurately did a show which was meant to solely entertain you satifactorily entertain you? The answer to the question is how shows like Shangrila or Code Geass should be evaluated because with them you know exactly what you are going to get and looking for something out of place like heavy character development when they usually don't promise that should not be counted against them. psgels:I never said it was not meant to be criticized but was merely refering to the way you evaluate it.I understand that code geass has it’s flaws and yeah some times hell..most of the times goes over the top but that is I believe excatly what the creators intended.
The question then is do you enjoy these kind of shows or to put it more accurately did a show which was meant to solely entertain you
satifactorily entertain you?
The answer to the question is how shows like Shangrila or Code Geass should be evaluated because with them you know exactly what you are going to get and looking for something out of place like heavy character development when they usually don’t promise that should not be counted against them.

]]> by: psgels http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15126 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:24:14 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15126 Zack: saying "it's not meant to be criticized" is just weak. It's like saying "everyone should like my favourite anime". My own personal favourite anime is Mahou Shoujotai; I love it to bits, just as you do with Code Geass, but I know full well that it has flaws and that there are enough people who dislike it, find it too childish et cetera. It's not like I'm not looking for entertainment or anything: I love a good series that can do that, but I just didn't find any at Code Geass because it kept breaking my suspension of disbelief. Zack: saying “it’s not meant to be criticized” is just weak. It’s like saying “everyone should like my favourite anime”. My own personal favourite anime is Mahou Shoujotai; I love it to bits, just as you do with Code Geass, but I know full well that it has flaws and that there are enough people who dislike it, find it too childish et cetera. It’s not like I’m not looking for entertainment or anything: I love a good series that can do that, but I just didn’t find any at Code Geass because it kept breaking my suspension of disbelief.

]]> by: tekky99 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15125 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:11:37 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15125 @Steche: What IS a typical catastrophe anime... there have only been, what 2? Yeah, I'm also kinda starting to get mixed feelings about Bake, maybe it's just the current arc. As for Princess Lover, I'm not really comparing it to other animes, but rather other eroge adaptations. In that sense PL caught me by surprise. @Steche: What IS a typical catastrophe anime… there have only been, what 2?

Yeah, I’m also kinda starting to get mixed feelings about Bake, maybe it’s just the current arc. As for Princess Lover, I’m not really comparing it to other animes, but rather other eroge adaptations. In that sense PL caught me by surprise.

]]> by: ZACK http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15124 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:51:15 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15124 I just don't get what your gripe with code geass is! I think the way you evaluate code is way too strict and your interpretation of it doesnot do it justice.Code Geass is show meant to entertain and on that count it delivers as few shows have ever done.Code geass was never meant for the critics.It is a show packaged with all the thingsthat the majority of anime viewers completely enjoy.I've noticed that people who have actually panned this have taken this too seriously and look for some meaning to the madness within it when the simple answer is that there is no meaning to it and that is what I believe the creators intended. In retrospect when you look back at Code Geass you realise you are looking at a well crafted masterpiece of pure entertainment and it's phenomenal popularity and Lelouch topping every popularity poll stands as a testement to it. I just don’t get what your gripe with code geass is! I think the way you evaluate code is way too strict and your interpretation of it doesnot do it justice.Code Geass is show meant to entertain and on that count it delivers as few shows have ever done.Code geass was never meant for the critics.It is a show packaged with all the thingsthat the majority of anime viewers completely enjoy.I’ve noticed that people who have actually panned this have taken this too seriously and look for some meaning to the madness within it when the simple answer is that there is no meaning to it and that is what I believe the creators intended.

In retrospect when you look back at Code Geass you realise you are looking at a well crafted masterpiece of pure entertainment and it’s phenomenal popularity and Lelouch topping every popularity poll stands as a testement to it.

]]> by: Steche http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15117 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:28:27 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15117 I completely agree. Code Geass was too much stereotypical like any other Sunrise production except maybe Zegapain. The abuse of power-ups is clearly the weakness in CG. Gurren Lagann do it much better. However, i still think that TM8.0 is not yet at its full potential. For the moment, it's just your typical catastrophe anime with a charismatic lead. And yeah, Birdy 2 was awesome. And if you take in account that the DVD version fixes the animation problems (yeah it was not intentional in the aired serie) it's probably one of the best of 2009 I completely agree. Code Geass was too much stereotypical like any other Sunrise production except maybe Zegapain. The abuse of power-ups is clearly the weakness in CG. Gurren Lagann do it much better.

However, i still think that TM8.0 is not yet at its full potential. For the moment, it’s just your typical catastrophe anime with a charismatic lead.

And yeah, Birdy 2 was awesome. And if you take in account that the DVD version fixes the animation problems (yeah it was not intentional in the aired serie) it’s probably one of the best of 2009

]]> by: psgels http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15116 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:50:58 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15116 Scamp: I've indeed wondered about this, but for me there are lots of reasons why I disliked Code Geass and yet remain a big fan of Shangri-la. The characters of Code Geass were bland variations of various stereotypes whose development made no sense, while in Shangri-la they're dynamic, colorful and well fleshed out. The story in Code Geass was rather one-sided and developed by Deus ex Machina, while it's varied and well crafted from the beginning in Shangri-La. Code Geass' setting never really was that original, while Shangri-la is full of interesting ideas. Those aren't all of my gripes by far, but just the main ones. tealovertoma: yeah, I don't make use of any universal rating system, this is just how my own system evolved over the past years. My definition of a "good" series is around 7,75/10. The series below are enjoyable but have lots of problems, and the series all have their great points. Oh, and as for my favourite series of 2008 so far: I'd have to say Birdy the Mighty Decode 2. I've been waiting ever since it aired for a series that would be able to come even close to its level, but no luck so far. Scamp: I’ve indeed wondered about this, but for me there are lots of reasons why I disliked Code Geass and yet remain a big fan of Shangri-la. The characters of Code Geass were bland variations of various stereotypes whose development made no sense, while in Shangri-la they’re dynamic, colorful and well fleshed out. The story in Code Geass was rather one-sided and developed by Deus ex Machina, while it’s varied and well crafted from the beginning in Shangri-La. Code Geass’ setting never really was that original, while Shangri-la is full of interesting ideas. Those aren’t all of my gripes by far, but just the main ones.

tealovertoma: yeah, I don’t make use of any universal rating system, this is just how my own system evolved over the past years. My definition of a “good” series is around 7,75/10. The series below are enjoyable but have lots of problems, and the series all have their great points.

Oh, and as for my favourite series of 2008 so far: I’d have to say Birdy the Mighty Decode 2. I’ve been waiting ever since it aired for a series that would be able to come even close to its level, but no luck so far.

]]> by: tealovertoma http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15113 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:10:40 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15113 Yeah I've also dropped Shangri-La forever ago. How come you never rate a show below a 6, by the way? Surely Elementhunters deserves it? I don't really get people who rate a show a 7 and then still drop it. A 7 is a "good" show in my book... I don't drop good shows. Yeah I’ve also dropped Shangri-La forever ago.

How come you never rate a show below a 6, by the way? Surely Elementhunters deserves it? I don’t really get people who rate a show a 7 and then still drop it. A 7 is a “good” show in my book… I don’t drop good shows.

]]> by: Scamp http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15112 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:07:50 +0100 http://psgels.blogsome.com/2009/07/31/july-summary-4/#comment-15112 I just can't understand why you seem to like Shangri-La so much. What does it do that Code Geass doesn't do 10 times better? That said at least I do agree with you on Spice and Wolf. Great start to the season I just can’t understand why you seem to like Shangri-La so much. What does it do that Code Geass doesn’t do 10 times better?

That said at least I do agree with you on Spice and Wolf. Great start to the season

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